I guess I was thinking backwards in regards to the scope tilt. My priorties are mainly accuracy, balance, and quality. I think ill buy this first for plinking until i can force myself to save the money forthe benjamin 392. 2. Fits Benjamin 397/392 and Sheridan multi-pump rifles Easily slips on the receiver, spanning the pellet-loading area 2-piece intermount mounts on receiver & included Picatinny rail attaches to the intermount Includes 2-piece aluminum intermount, 2 steel screws and Picatinny rail Additional Details Small Business Thanks for the information and advice; I will return it but I'm wary about getting another 392. Is the quality higher in the .20 caliber? I dont see how the valve alignment could be screwed up by pumping without cocking. Thats the problem with testing pellets. Affiliate Links are prominently displayed under the heading BUY FROM. Try Benjamin Sheridan Diabolos, which is a domed pellet weighing 14.3 grains in .22. Cock the gun, then pump it rapidly and shoot it 50 times with a pellet in it. BB,Wow thanks for the quick reply. The Benjamin Bolt Action Variable Pump Pellet Air Rifle features Monte Carlo styling, a durable all-weather synthetic stock and foregrip, rifled barrel and fully adjustable rear sight. I cant decide between the 4X32 bug Buster, the BSA huntsman 3X12X50 or the Leapers 3X9X32 32mm with the range estimating mil dot reticle and the AO. As for the hole size, a wise man once said you can make many small cuts, but nothing can put material back. Copperhead Domed Pellets (Special Purposes), The box said Excellent downrange energy and accuracy.. Its not my place to say whether you can shoot in the house or not. Stuff is getting blurry. I am assuming this gun has a rail so I only need rims not bases.Thanks for helping me decide. : I just became interested in air guns this past week. However, can you advise on windage adjustment? I did find my scope a tad loose the other day, so I yurned back the off-set mount a bit, and that solved the issue. You are welcome to post questions or comments on the current blog where literally thousands of people willingly give you the benefit of their knowledge and experience. And you must hunt in season with a license. BB, For some reason, this wont publish my comments. He will restore airguns to operational specs, but he wont increase power in guns beyond the factory levels. But as I said earlier, you can get a scope/peep sight with a special inter-mount to use on this one. 633.8 FPS and 12.76 FPE with Daisy 14.3 grains flat-nosed pellet. This is the second time I have answered this question and the third time you have asked it. The Pyramyd Air home page will open. Benjamin Airguns Founded in 1882, Benjamin Airguns builds innovative air guns that are steeped in tradition but never bound by it. There are no parts unless you make them. Where can I buy a Benjamin 397 or 392 (wood pump action)? Something that will compliment the Benjamin 392. thank you so much. but there are absolutely no stores selling the IZH near us shes gone to pawn shops specialty stores, gun shops/stores, fleet farm walmart, etc. Cool idea huh??? I do wish they still sold the walnut stock version would have purchased over synthetic. Get some Crosman Pellgunoil for when its time to oil the pump head, which is the dark thing you see at the end of the pump slot with the handle completely forward. I have an old Benjamin .177 caliber air rifle, which I believe is a Model 397. is the screw supposed to be connected at the bottom of the sight. problem solved!! The 6.4-liter 392 HEMI SRT V8 or "Apache" will continue for another couple of models years in the Charger and Challenger lineups. Is it really critical? I uninstalled it and tilted it back a bit and installed it. Those screws operate on a push-pull basis. And speaking of pellets, which do u think work best in this rifle? I believ he does. Believe it or not, it is easier to hit a 3-inch target than to group in three inches. If youre looking for a well made, affordable gun for pest control or just plinking around, you cant go wrong with the Benjamin 392. Most of the positions I held the rifle in had at least one good or semi-good quality to it, and most had an almost random seeming scatter of pellets. Can you recommend where to find specs and parts for this gun? The Sierra got good reviews on a couple of different sites, but the specks werent much different. You can install red dot sights and scopes as well, but for that you also need to buy the Crosman B272 4-piece Intermount to serve as a base for the dot sight or scope mounts. They are shown in pictures #7 and #8. If you can squeak a few more dollars, the Beeman R7 is an all-time classic. Come check us out. Im gonna buy more, and ill be giving up on buying the peep sight for a while, too (Ill get around to it). As I began my research, I ran across this website and this particular thread. Rick WillneckerRick is in Pennsylvania, where he repairs vintage and modern Crosman, Benjamin and Sheridan guns. Any suggestions if I was to pick up another air rifle for the purpose I am looking for? No effect on performance or accuracy. Ive taken several squirrels, and many rabbits. I recommend B-Square AA Adjustable scope mounts. http://members.aol.com/vintairgun/order.htm. He really enjoys it and its exactly what he wanted. Seems to have the most direct and best info. We and our partners use data for Personalised ads and content, ad and content measurement, audience insights and product development. Airgun Slug BC Variability And Projectile Weight, New Air Venturi Avenge-X Stars At 2023 SHOT Show, Western Airguns Sidewinder Air Rifle Test Review .22 Caliber, H&N Baracuda 15 Pellet Test Review .22 Caliber, Diana Stormrider PCP Air Rifle Test Review .177 Caliber. What scope mounting system is best for this rifle?? I had a Benjamin .22 (possibly a 392) back in the 70's. Is circular better than square? 25-50 yds very effective. Then that same year, with some new updates, it was relaunched as the Benjamin 397 and 392. Then return the forearm to its original position to complete one pump. I shaved the b-square attachment part of the benjamin 392. She should be able to handle four or five pumps as well. I plan on getting a Silver Streak 5mm in due time. Sorry for all the questions, but the more I look at it the more I want and I am getting way beyond my original need. but the hand pump has two holes drilled into it with splinters stickin out, are these for screws to hold the handle on the gun? Its probably held up better over the years than I have.Thanx any response would be great Rowdy. Roy. This is a job best left to a qualifies airgunsmith like Mac-1 or Bryan & Associates. So is this a good practice to follow? I cant say enough about this rifle. Take a look at the Webley Exocet. Yesterday, one of my coworkers brought in a older 22 caliber Benjamin that he wanted me to research on the internet. Figure them to be equal in power. The reason I cant tell is I dont know where the knob was set when you started. Sometimes I give them away to people I want to bug. Should I have a flat piece of plastic with a hole in it? I was wondering if this particular round ball is made of lead, and if so, will the coating harm the rifling of the soft brass barrel on the 392? This gun is one that truly harkens back to the good old days. Even when Crosman bought Benjamin, they left the quality alone. In one year, Id like you to repeat this test. For more on the in-depth comparison between synthetic and wood stock, see this post. Will the model 392 repair kit at pyramydair be compatible with my model 342?Thanks,Jovie. Thanks ill just enjoy the gun and face the bad times when they come. I just received this gun, and when I fire (dry fire), I hear a wimpy little sputter versus a pop. Either would be better than what Ive got now. I was thinking of purchasing a 392 because of its paucity of recoil. Diasy flat nose gave me groups a little bit tighter then the crow magnums. BBJ. Just a little factory shipping oils dieselling I guess. I remember jimping on the front sight as wellmaybe Im wrong, it was, afterall, a long time ago. No airgun is better (in this price range at least)!!!! Earlier last year, you answered a 397 question about sighting that I dont quite understand. I can use the 272s on the little womans rifle!!! i am 14 years old and 51 and 106 poundsi currently have the daisy 880i would like to upgrade to either the 392 or the 22sgmoney is not an issue but i heard that the 392 is hard to pump nad wheny you mount a scope with the 4- piece intermounts, then it will be harder to pump because you cant get a good holdalso i heard that you need a long eye relief scopei have the daisy powerline 3x-9x 32mmscopewill this be good on the 392?or should i get the 22sgi mainly want to use it for plinking and hunting squirrels, possums, and feathered pestswhich gun should i get???thanks. I cant tell how far 900 degrees south (down?) Notice the date at the top of the blog. Pyramyd also shows that this mount is for the Benjamin rifles. I sight in for 20 yards, then learn how much to hold under when the target is closer. Im not sure, but I must have got a really good plunger seal, because the 1st pump feels like the fourth or fifth pump on my newer 392. Stamped metal parts on the unit were left with rough edges as well. I have looked at the the RWS Diannnas, and found a youth model,#34 (?!?) i live in hawaii so if i bought one from air pyramid it would cost $175.00 total. https://www.pyramydair.com/product/b-square-20054-1-sport-utility-rings-weaver-dovetail?a=432, http://www.airgunexpress.com/NEWJPEGS/115-48-0397-E.jpg, https://www.pyramydair.com/product/ics-airsoft-silicone-oil-spray?a=772, http://home.joimail.com/~sifu_mcconahy/index.html, http://www.sportsauthority.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2077747&cp=&fbn=Taxonomy%7CBB+Guns%2FAmmo&f=Taxonomy%2FTSA%2F2098726&fbc=1&kw=.22+ammo&parentPage=search, Generation 2 .25 caliber Benjamin Marauder: Part 12, Why You Should Hunt Coyote This Offseason. Do you just store them away for accuracy tests in later guns? If you are not a fan of plastic guns then this is definitely a great choice for you . I need to double check, but I think the Webley is available in 22, R7 in 20. Surely Im doing something or multiple things wrong. Oddly enough, I went to the Crosman website, and neither of its newest 392 or 397 manuals have the lateral sight instructions. Shoot for the brain and only as far as you can hit a quarter every time. I did read up on the mount you suggested, but it didnt exactly get a 5 star review. This gun is one that truly harkens back to "the good old days." Even when Crosman bought Benjamin, they left the quality alone. The second from the right says BLOG. 35 shooter. Six pumps on balance pointI got a 1 and 11/16 inch group with a firm grip (average 2 and 3/16 inch) , and a 2 and 4/16 inch group with a loose grip (average 2 and 4/16). Affiliate Program | (from about 50 ft) thank you. I'm struggling to find either model for sale new. Too many problems. 5. . It has an angle bracket that screws into two screws to the side of the receiver of the 392/397, A standard Williams Peep sight with dove tail mounting will not easily adapt to the 392/397. I say that because there are MANY rifles equivalent to the 392. How do I browse to the current page? At both Amazon and Walmart.com, it's just under $150. Makes them easier to crush too. Theyre arent really any air rifle stores near me and Im really not that psyched about having to pay shipping and handling on a small tube of air rifle oil. Anyways,. Discussion 1 (Grad Writing II).docx. https://www.pyramydair.com/product/ics-airsoft-silicone-oil-spray?a=772 will that stuff work thanks mark, BB its just when i pump the gun it makes the pshh noise then when the pumper part hits the barrel part it dosent make that noise. Payment not received . how do u remove the rear blade sites on a 392. I actually still have the gun and today pulled it out to look at it. The factory mount scope stop screw might lift it up more, but Ill leave the dovetail clamps loosenned until I can get the scope closer to target. Either way I will try one of them. I just ordered a 392 (the Benjamin in .22 cal) with the Williams peep sight. It will take some time for what happens next. You dont need to apologise. looks like im heading to sports authority. Air gun 101: How Nitro Piston technology can make your shooting sport more exciting? BB, i dont know if this matters but he can lift about 70lbs easly thx, hey BB when im pumping by benjamin it makes a pshh noise wen i pump it is this normal thanks. Maybe you have hit on something! Will the replacement seal kit sold on pyramid air fix this or is there anything else i will need? Also, will you be reviewing the Gamo Whisper springer when it arrives in August? No, you should not put the muzzle on the ground and then cock the rifle with the stock. How difficult is it to install the peepsight, and does Pyramid Air install this sight for you if requested? When you close the pump handle, make your pumping hand flat to keep fingers out of the way. The Benjamin 392 requires very little maintenance: You only need to use a light coat of Crosman PellgunOil in the barrel to prevent rust. I am glad I did not pay the extra for the easy-pump modification. Your rifle should never be pumped more than 10 strokes. Thanks, Thomas. Ive shot a vintage Sheridan he resealed, and he did a great job. OK BB, Heres my latest finding on pellets. Hard Air Magazine is the best Internet destination for everything airgun related. It is still in the original box I saved and I found a receipt from 1986 when I mailed it back to Benjamin factory (pre-Crosman) for repair and re-bluing ($32.00 for all that!!!). Posted by 24 days ago. You need to call Pyramyd Air and talk to a customer representative. Beeman makes a similar mount designed for barrel droop but its not offered by Pyramid. Someone who spends as much time on the internet as you do should certainly have stumbled onto them by now. There are no videos on how to do this, as it has only been done a few times. You will need to raise the rear of the scope with an adjustable scope mount. I was shooting my 392 a couple days back, and i decided to try holding the gun different ways to see how it affected accuracy. Push the bolt handle forward into its position. Thanks ill be getting one next week from you guys thanks alot!!!! For any spare parts not listed please feel free to contact us. I dont know what kind of gun you have, nor the caliber. Thats fine, because the power level dictates that this rifle should be used by someone who can exercise great responsibility. Well, the next five were barely in a three inch group at about 30-40 feet. 150 dollars is a lot of money (for me) and get many ideas of wat else i can buy with it( i guess im an impulse shopper) what is the izhs accuracy at about 30-40 yards? can i just use it out the box? I cant wait to shoot it, but i dont have any pellets yet, so i pumped the gun once (yep, its a little hard to pump, and i cant use my left hand, severed the tendon couple months ago), and set it in the corner of my room. craigslist.com has no towns in the area that my parents will drive to, and garage sales are also bereft of bb guns of any kind. Have you tried oiling the pump head with CROSMAN PELLGUNOIL? Radical state laws are changing which airguns are being producedThanks to laws in states like Michigan, where all air rifles over .18 caliber are considered to be firearms, the big box stores like Wal-Mart dont stock the .22 air rifles any more. Thats like buying a new car but not wanting to pay for gas because the price is so high. How sensitive are those crossman B272 4 pc pre-mounts to movement? The trigger guard was thinner and blued. Now the rifles are essentially the same. B-Square rings are made for adult air rifles while the Crosman Intermount is more of a stopgap measure to put a scope on a gun that doesnt have a good base for it. My pick is the 392 because .22 caliber is a preferred hunting caliber. Messaged the seller and got no response. I taught her how to use it and she killed at least 11, including five in a row that were just sunning themselves on our steps. Heres a good article to read that B.B. is with a super light pellet. Please try again. This is from the july 20 post. I guess you can tell Im a big fan of this air rifle! BB, is this gun hard to cock I want to get it for my 14yr old son. The .22 is preferred for the reasons you cite. After viewing product detail pages, look here to find an easy way to navigate back to pages you are interested in. Any information would be appreciated. The Benjamin is made for roughing it, rather than just for sport. Id stay away from that model. Is the scope the problem??? Maybe, I can repair these too have tried 3 in 1 oil on them but not the pelligunoil. Just shoot the gun and dont let any of that bad stuff happen. For more on the differences between .177 & .22 and which jobs they do best, see this post. Im not the best shot on the planet yet I can hit a target two-three inches in diameter (about the size of the kill zone on a chuck)without much of a problem at a about 45-50 yards with my 392 using a peep firing prone with a rest. Glad I asked! However, this raises another series of questions for you. Crosman discontinued them earlier this year and it may be hard to locate one. Maybe 104-106 decibels. I also would like to know what pellets work the best with this gun and for pest shooting. I tried to mount the bsa 3-12 x44 scope but the rear piece of the sights that are installed on the benjamin will get in the wayand wont allow it to sit correctly on the front ring. The 392 model in the .22 caliber is capable of sending a traditional lead pellet at 685 fps (alloys around 800fps) and is rated at an impressive 14.9 FPE . Is this supposed to happen? I dont own a 397, so all my shooting is with.20 and .22 multi-pumps. It saw me coming out the door and scampered back to its hole so I got into prone position about ten yards away. well my benjamin 392 came in the mail today. But they do ship fast, so the price doesnt seem high to me, its just that thats ten more bucks I have to come up with. Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:07 am . The price for the Benjamin 392 multi-pump air gun is about $150. I searched pyramyd air and found that u can pay by check!! A rifle that groups 3/8 at 35 yards with JSB domes will group about 3/4 with the JSB Predators (thats the name of the hollowpoint pellets we are talking about). This is even with the elevation screw adjusted all the way out until it isnt in contact with the metal below. Besides not working or holding air, the biggest fault both rifles have is a broken solder joint between the barrel and the pump tube. That threww up a red flag to me. Reviewed in the United States on June 1, 2022. Have you exprienced this? The bolt doesnt hold in the closed position either, with a tendency to rotate half loose while handling the rifle. Insert the pellet into the loading port (with the pellets nose lying forward). My curiosity was piqued and I began to investigate all types of airguns. Great gun, no comparison to the cheap plastic air rifles. I am extremely interested in it for its noise dampener. 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It will then be replaced by the rumored 7.0-liter 426 cubic-inch HEMI SRT V8 codenamed "Banshee" sometime around the 2021 model year. if you are not into historic or collectibles, buy the new rifle for $30 more and get a warranty. As for silicone chamber oil, why not order it here? Please find below the exploded parts diagram, parts list and available spare parts for the Benjamin 392, 397 air rifle. Should I write my check out to Pyramyd Air Gun Mall? I have tested a steroided silver streak, which is very similar to the 392. If there is no significant difference in accuracy is there anything else I should consider (target knockdown power, etc) when making this choice? Priced Under $200 - I got mine for $129, I bought it as a refurbished gun. Choose either the .22-caliber with speeds from 500-800 fps or the .177-caliber with speeds from 800-1100 fps. But the listing I found with the lowest price is even cheaper than the price on the manufacturers site or the prices on other e-commercial sites like PyramydAir, Walmart, AirgunDepot. Ive done some more looking and have come across the Beeman SS1000, and it seems like a great deal. The rifle pumps up ok but does not hold the charge for very long.